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By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:26:10 +0000

I have added TypePad AntiSpam to the list. This is a new anti-spam solution by the folks at TypePad that is made available as a WordPress plugin. Has anybody tried this? If so, what do you think about it?

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:22:46 +0000

@Rosyidi
Most mobile phone browsers now-a-days should support Javascript and I don’t think I know many bloggers that use lynx to comment on blogs. Regardless, many anti-spam plugins out there are requiring Javascript and cookies to be enabled to allow commenting.

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Sat, 31 May 2008 21:56:35 +0000

But, how if visitor use non javascript browser? like lynx or browse it from mobile phone or PDA.

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Sat, 31 May 2008 10:31:30 +0000

@Rosyidi
Thank you for letting me know, but most users have Javascript turned on and most bots are not Javascript enabled so it would be nice to make Javascript a requirement for commenting on the blog. Regardless, I will definitely add text to notifying the user to turn on his/her Javascript to enable comments. Thanks again!

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Sat, 31 May 2008 02:30:55 +0000

I have found bug for your new plugin.
I can’t preview my comment when java scirpt on my browser off.
So, some commentators can’t post their comment couse of this.

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:31 +0000

@Rosyidi
Same here. I really appreciate that you keep reading and commenting on this blog. Thank you!

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Fri, 30 May 2008 08:06:34 +0000

Nice to know you. Although I’ve bad English, but you still undertand it. Thanks a lot.

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:57:26 +0000

@Rosyidi
Thank you for your kind words. I need to do a little bit of code cleanup work before I want to release it. I’ll keep you posted and let you know as soon as I have a downloadable link.

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:32:32 +0000

Wow.. I love it very much.
I have search it by google to everywhere, but no one make plugin like this.
Your plugin is better than textpattern.

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:29:37 +0000

Wow. great job.
Where is I can download your plugin?

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Thu, 29 May 2008 22:11:57 +0000

@Rosyidi
Thank you for the suggestion again. I loved it so much that I actually implemented “Force Commment Preview” on this blog by modding the Ajax Comment Preview plugin. As of right now, I don’t believe that it is a good anti-spam measure (yet), but it is definitely a great comment quality enhancer. I will be making a lot more anti-spam modifications to this and will commit this to the WordPress plugins repository for all you WordPress lovers to enjoy soon!

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Thu, 29 May 2008 18:22:12 +0000

@Rosyidi
You are absolutely right! Spam bots will usually be programmed to account for the common case, so they will most likely get caught on blogs with unique anti-spam measures. But as soon as the unique technique becomes widely used, this anti-spam measure will eventually be penetrated by spam bots.

As a side note, I would love to have a “forced preview” comment box. I believe it is great for improving comment quality (other than catching spam). Maybe I’ll write a plugin that does this (if one doesn’t already exist).

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:30:13 +0000

oo.. i see..
Sorry for misunderstanding.
Ok. may be spam can easily be programmed to click the preview button first before submitting the comment. But, Most of spam programmer haven’t do that. So, I think it’s waste time to make spesific spam for little blog. As we know, maybe almost 100% wordpress blogger don’t use preview comment before submiting.
But may be it will change if sometime 100% wordpress blogger change it with preview first before submit.
I do wish wordpress can block spammer.

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:42:59 +0000

@Rosyidi
Thank you for suggesting TextPattern’s forced comment preview anti-spam. I’m neither saying that WP Spam Hitman won’t work with WP-Super-Cache nor am I saying that it is not a great solution. I am saying that it is a good “Club” solution, but it is not a Lojack solution. Same goes with TextPattern’s forced comment preview.

If a spam bot just wants to spam just any blog (a generic blog), then it will most likely be defeated by WP Spam Hitman and forced comment preview. But if the spam bot wants to spam *your* blog, then it can easily be programmed not use the words defined in WP Spam Hitman and to click on the preview button before submitting the comment.

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:06:38 +0000

OK. I think it’s difficult to make something like wp spam hitman on wp-super cache.
But, I think the best solution to prevent the spam is like textpattern.
So we must preview first before submit. example : http://textpattern.com/weblog/

By: Thaya Kareeson

Thaya Kareeson — Wed, 28 May 2008 07:35:15 +0000

@Rosyidi
Thank you for your suggestion on WP Spam Hitman, but it seems to me like WP Spam Hitman is more of a "The Club" anti-spam solution (unless I don't understand how it works). According to Mark Pilgrim, a Lojack solution is one that does not do anything to prevent the spam, but makes it less attractive overall to spam.
Take Akismet for example:
1. A spammer comments on your blog.
2. You marked the comment as spam.
3. Akismet will submit this spam comment to a central database where it is logged and blacklisted.
4. The same spammer will never be able to spam any site (including yours) that is Akismet enabled.
With WP Spam Hitman, you can create your own regular expressions to filter out spam based on the comment text, but no one is benefiting from your regular expression other than yourself. This is why it is more of a "Club" solution. Now if the regular expressions are being centrally stored and distributed to other WP Spam Hitman users then, that would be a Lojack solution.
Please let me know if I don't understand how WP Spam Hitman works and it is indeed a Lojack solution.

By: Rosyidi

Rosyidi — Sun, 25 May 2008 08:34:22 +0000

Yesterday I try wp-Spamhitman. But, it didn’t work at all.
I can’nt open omninoggin.atomicblog.hop.clickbank.net.
I have request instant acess. But, it still doesn’t work.
For LoJack anti spam ideas, I think some think like wp-spam-hitman is great plugin. Couse we can blacklist some word.

I’ll waiting for your Project Honey Pot and List Poisoning.
Thanks a lot.